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Question re Canon iP1500


Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been working
fine till last week.
Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK for
me. Last week, I got a
new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always printed
photos fine. But they had a
little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not terrible, but
I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better before.
I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color cart.
But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press Resume
button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I also
notice after
printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full which
should be down a little by now.
I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or is
blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer as much
as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
printer finished?
MaryW

The paper and ink type will have a lot to do with the 'greyscale', i
you print a b&w picture you'll find some paper brands will have
purple cast and some with a greeny cast, same when you change in
brands and printing on Canon paper for example, this tends t
colourise a coloured photograph
You may be able to counteract this somewhat in the printer's drive
window, I have a ip5000 if like mine go to the printer and righ
click Canon, click printing preferances, clicking colour managemen
to manual and then click set where a window will open and there yo
will be able to set the individual colours
For some pictures the Canon likes to have the ICM box ticked and th
intensity control set to +10, you'll get to this in the above settin
- if like mine
Your aim is to get a decent b&w greyscale as it's called then th
you'll rid that colour cast, this means experimenting with differen
brands of ink and paper if other than Canon
One question you could ask is what ink's and paper gives a decen
'output' other than OEM, stay 'tuned' and you may get some usefu
advice in this respect
Dav

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Mary wrote:

>Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been working
>fine till last week.
>Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK for
>me. Last week, I got a
>new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always printed
>photos fine. But they had a
>little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not terrible, but
>I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better before.
>I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color cart.
>But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
>cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press Resume
>button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I also
>notice after
>printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full which
>should be down a little by now.
>I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or is
>blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer as much
>as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
>according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
>printer finished?
>
>MaryW
>
>
>

YOU FURTHER COMPLICATED YOUR PIECE OF TRASH PRINTER BY PUTTING IN A
GREATER PIECE OF TRASH INK AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED. IF YOU FEEL
YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON THEN GO OUT AND BUY A CANON IP5200.

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\measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Mary wrote:
>
> >Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been

working
> >fine till last week.
> >Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK for
> >me. Last week, I got a
> >new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always printed
> >photos fine. But they had a
> >little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not terrible,

but
> >I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better before.
> >I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color

cart.
> >But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
> >cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press

Resume
> >button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I also
> >notice after
> >printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full

which
> >should be down a little by now.
> >I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or is
> >blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer as

much
> >as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
> >according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
> >printer finished?
> >
> >MaryW
> >
> >
> >

> YOU FURTHER COMPLICATED YOUR PIECE OF TRASH PRINTER BY PUTTING IN A
> GREATER PIECE OF TRASH INK AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED. IF YOU FEEL
> YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON THEN GO OUT AND BUY A CANON IP5200.

What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
bother replying if this is your best advice.
Mary

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\Davy\ <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> The paper and ink type will have a lot to do with the 'greyscale', if
> you print a b&w picture you'll find some paper brands will have a
> purple cast and some with a greeny cast, same when you change ink
> brands and printing on Canon paper for example, this tends to
> colourise a coloured photograph.

I don't print b&w photos. But I am using Kodak photo paper for my Canon
printer. I always used Kodak double sided semi-gloss photo paper with
Staples brand carts and photos printed were always ok.

> You may be able to counteract this somewhat in the printer's driver
> window, I have a ip5000 if like mine go to the printer and right
> click Canon, click printing preferances, clicking colour management
> to manual and then click set where a window will open and there you
> will be able to set the individual colours.

On my printer, color adjustment can be set in another area. Not under
colour management.
When I put a jpg on the screen and click on print then Properties, under
Main Tab there is a setting Automatic or Manual and you can set for
Manual and there are color adjustments you can make for magenta,blue and
yellow. I could try reducing magenta and see if that reduces the pinkish
cast on my colour photos.

> For some pictures the Canon likes to have the ICM box ticked and the
> intensity control set to +10, you'll get to this in the above setting
> - if like mine.

There is an ICM box ticked in the same area where the colour adjustments
are, but by default its not checked so didn't put a check there as I
don't know what its for.

> Your aim is to get a decent b&w greyscale as it's called then the
> you'll rid that colour cast, this means experimenting with different
> brands of ink and paper if other than Canon.

I am not sure what you mean by greyscale. I only know greyscale is for
b&w photos.

> One question you could ask is what ink's and paper gives a decent
> 'output' other than OEM, stay 'tuned' and you may get some useful
> advice in this respect.
>
> Davy

I wonder if the printer has a problem, because of the message \waste ink
absorber is almost full, press Resume button\. I've never seen that
message before. Also, I've used same Staples cart and Kodak photo paper
and my prints were always OK with no pinkish cast till now. I only
tried Canon cartridge to see if my photos still had the same pinkish
cast as they had with the Staples brand cart, which it did.
Thanks for your suggestions.
MaryW

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\Mary\ <no@japamjunk.com> wrote in message
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> \measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> Mary wrote:
>>
>> >Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been

> working
>> >fine till last week.
>> >Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK for
>> >me. Last week, I got a
>> >new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always printed
>> >photos fine. But they had a
>> >little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not terrible,

> but
>> >I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better before.
>> >I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color

> cart.
>> >But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
>> >cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press

> Resume
>> >button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I also
>> >notice after
>> >printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full

> which
>> >should be down a little by now.
>> >I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or is
>> >blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer as

> much
>> >as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
>> >according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
>> >printer finished?
>> >
>> >MaryW
>> >
>> >

(snipped Measekite's mean-spirited, unhelpful response to Mary)

>
> What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
> problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
> stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
> bother replying if this is your best advice.
>
> Mary
>

Mary - you've just encountered our resident obnoxious troll. I can't recall
the last time he was anything but mean spirited and rude. He has a real
thing about aftermarket inks and constantly snipes at anyone who mentions
them. Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does
everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your enjoying it.
You have two problems.
One is probably some clogging of the jets which has caused one or more
colors to partially print and results in a color shift. Genuine Canon inks
(OEM) can clog the printhead also. Otherwise there would be no reason for
all inkjet printers to have built in cleaning routines. Clogs usually
happen from letting the printer sit idle for a period of time without
printing. Clogging also can occur after some months or years of use. ;You
can also have a failure of the printhead or the printer circuitry. I've
never used this printer, but it probably has a nozzle check. Run it to see
if you are getting a perfect pattern. The cleaning routine in the printer
software works for very minor clogs. It also uses up ink quickly,
especially with the small volume of ink in the ip1500 carts. Since you know
how to remove the printhead, go on to the Nifty-stuff forum, click on the
FAQ section, and read the first thread about what to do if your printer
doesn't print properly. Lots of info on cleaning a removable Canon
printhead. If, however, you are still under warranty, just contact Canon
and they will send you a new printhead.
The other problem is the nearly full waste ink tank. It isn't really a
tank - it is an absorbent pad inside the bottom of the printer. If you keep
printing now that you've gotten the warning, your printer will absolutely
shut down and you will have to take it to a repair facility to have them
replace the pad and reset the printer internal operating system. Again, on
the Nifty-stuff forum you can find the control codes for some of the Canon
priners that the technicians use to reset the counter that tells you the pad
is full. From what I've read, one reset without replacing the pad doesn't
generally cause the printer to leak ink. Unfortunately, these printers cost
more for the technician to replace the pad and reset them than it would cost
to buy a replacement! This is certainly an anti-consumer bit of technology
that Canons and Epsons employ. The printer doesn't actually measure how
much ink it has accumulated in the pad. It estimates it based on the number
of pages printed plus the number of cleaning cycles that it does, both
automatically and by you when there is a clog.
If you do have to replace the printer, Measekite's advice to get the ip 4200
or ip5200 isn't bad. It's just the mean quality of his message that is
totally inappropriate. Most of us have killfiled him and never see his
posts unless they are repeated by your response. So --- delete his garbage
with any future replies. Unfortunately, the newest pixma printers have
carts with computer chips built in and there are no aftermarket carts
available yet. Hopefully they will become available. The previous
generation pixmas - the ip4000 and ip5000 - have separate color carts and a
ready supply of aftermarket prefilled carts and refill inks. If you can
find one to buy, your replacement inks will be much cheaper. I have found
that businesses like Staples charge almost as much as OEM carts for their
aftermarket inks. Your best buys are on the internet and Nifty-stuff forum
and Neil Slade's info on papers and inks are good guides for which of these
products are safe and effective.
If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, Fry's electronics in San Jose has
the Canon MP780, a multipurpose unit, that has, as its basic printer engine,
the ip4000. It is on sale for $100 after reduction and Canon rebate. It is
also on sale at their outpost.com for $150. It is actually worth the price
for the printer function alone. As I mentioned for the ip4000 and ip5000,
there are lots of sources for prefilled carts of good quality.

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\Mary\ <no@japamjunk.com> wrote:
>\measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>news:Wv0Yf.55031$F_3.20890@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>>
>> Mary wrote:
>>
>> >Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been

>working
>> >fine till last week.
>> >Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK for
>> >me. Last week, I got a
>> >new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always printed
>> >photos fine. But they had a
>> >little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not terrible,

>but
>> >I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better before.
>> >I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color

>cart.
>> >But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
>> >cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press

>Resume
>> >button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I also
>> >notice after
>> >printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full

>which
>> >should be down a little by now.
>> >I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or is
>> >blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer as

>much
>> >as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
>> >according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
>> >printer finished?
>> >
>> >MaryW
>> >
>> >
>> >

>> YOU FURTHER COMPLICATED YOUR PIECE OF TRASH PRINTER BY PUTTING IN A
>> GREATER PIECE OF TRASH INK AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED. IF YOU FEEL
>> YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON THEN GO OUT AND BUY A CANON IP5200.

>
>What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
>problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
>stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
>bother replying if this is your best advice.
>
>Mary

Mary
Sorry you got the diatribe from the low life here.
Just to re-inforce what Burt has said about the waste absorber.
There are two of them in this printer but the printer does not report which one
is nearly full. Unfortunately I know of no codes to reset the counters, you
have to use a special piece of Canon software to reset the counters. This
software also tells you which of the waste ink counters is nearing full.
If you would like to have a go at that please e-mail me and I will see if I can
help.
Tony

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> \measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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> >> Mary wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been

> > working
> >> >fine till last week.
> >> >Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK

for
> >> >me. Last week, I got a
> >> >new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always

printed
> >> >photos fine. But they had a
> >> >little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not

terrible,
> > but
> >> >I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better

before.
> >> >I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color

> > cart.
> >> >But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
> >> >cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press

> > Resume
> >> >button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I

also
> >> >notice after
> >> >printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full

> > which
> >> >should be down a little by now.
> >> >I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or

is
> >> >blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer

as
> > much
> >> >as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
> >> >according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is

my
> >> >printer finished?
> >> >
> >> >MaryW
> >> >
> >> >

> (snipped Measekite's mean-spirited, unhelpful response to Mary)
>
> >
> > What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
> > problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
> > stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
> > bother replying if this is your best advice.
> >
> > Mary
> >

> Mary - you've just encountered our resident obnoxious troll. I can't

recall
> the last time he was anything but mean spirited and rude.

I kind of figured that, but fell in the trap anyway
He has a real
> thing about aftermarket inks and constantly snipes at anyone who

mentions
> them.

Actually, my photos printed much better with the \trash ink\ which was
Staples compatible carts if thats what he means by aftermarket inks,
than it now does with brand name Canon ink cart.
Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does
> everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your enjoying

it.
Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during that
time till I got a new Staples compatible but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the Canon
brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.

> You have two problems.


> One is probably some clogging of the jets which has caused one or more
> colors to partially print and results in a color shift. Genuine Canon

inks
> (OEM) can clog the printhead also. Otherwise there would be no reason

for
> all inkjet printers to have built in cleaning routines. Clogs usually
> happen from letting the printer sit idle for a period of time without
> printing. Clogging also can occur after some months or years of use.

The printer is not used every day but pretty frequently and this is the
first time I've had any kind of color problem with photos. Its not
terrible, but a light pinkish cast is there that was never there before.
Just enough to not look quite right when compared to a previous print of
the same photo from when I printed it a month ago.

>You
> can also have a failure of the printhead or the printer circuitry.

I've
> never used this printer, but it probably has a nozzle check. Run it

to see
> if you are getting a perfect pattern. The cleaning routine in the

printer
> software works for very minor clogs.

I did a nozzle check and some of the color lines look ok except for the
second lighter blue which has lines a little broken up, but the red
which is the color I seem to have a little too much of in the prints,
looks ok. The yellow looks ok, but the lighter yellow below that is
quite hard to see.

> It also uses up ink quickly,
> especially with the small volume of ink in the ip1500 carts.

Thats another thing you reminded me off. I have the printer monitor on
to check to see how much ink is left in the carts, and they both still
show them as being full. By this time after printing quite a few photos
in my experiments (wasted ink of course), the carts usually suddenly dip
down to about half after what seems a very short time.

>Since you know
> how to remove the printhead, go on to the Nifty-stuff forum, click on

the
> FAQ section, and read the first thread about what to do if your

printer
> doesn't print properly. Lots of info on cleaning a removable Canon
> printhead. If, however, you are still under warranty, just contact

Canon
> and they will send you a new printhead.

I've never heard of Nifty stuff forum, but I'll do a search for it. The
warranty for my printer is up sometimes this month, but since I bought
it at Staples. I am in Toronto, Canada, so things might be done a little
different than in the US with Staples. I got an extended warranty for
$10.00 when I bought the printer as I thought it was worth it. I had an
Epson a few years ago and it conked out during the second year, and
Staples took my old one back and said to take another one and thats how
I got the Canon I now have. Anything that cost under $200, they dont
send for repair. They just replace it with same printer or one a little
more money and you pay the difference. So I am not sure if I would just
get another printer since I could get one the same price and not have to
pay anything more than I paid for the printer I have, or pay a little
more if I saw something else.
I saw advertised an iP 1600 which would be similar to what I have and
about the same price. I don't want to pay a lot for a printer. I don't
print photos that often. I go on photo printing binges. We probably
don't have all the varieties of printers you have in the US though we
have enough for most people. I seem to manage to buy enough stuff

> The other problem is the nearly full waste ink tank. It isn't really

a
> tank - it is an absorbent pad inside the bottom of the printer.

When I checked the printer, I notice on the right side where you can't
get at inside the printer (where they don't want you to get at), there
is a white plastic cup thing with small dividers, don't know what you
call them, and a lot of blue and red ink smeared around, and two small
pad things. I guess thats what you mean.

>If you keep
> printing now that you've gotten the warning, your printer will

absolutely
> shut down and you will have to take it to a repair facility to have

them
> replace the pad and reset the printer internal operating system.

I would take it to Staples and they will replace it with another printer
as that one is not in production now, or I would pay a little more for
difference in price from what I paid and get another printer.
Theoretically, during the first year, its under warranty by the
manufacturer, but often Staples will give you a new one even without
extended warranty. The extended warranty is for the second year. I've
never had to take a printer or anything for repair when buying at
Staples. I have found them good to deal with.

>Again, on
> the Nifty-stuff forum you can find the control codes for some of the

Canon
> priners that the technicians use to reset the counter that tells you

the pad
> is full. From what I've read, one reset without replacing the pad

doesn't
> generally cause the printer to leak ink.

I will see if I can find that information on Nifty-stuff though I've
never been there,.
Unfortunately, these printers cost
> more for the technician to replace the pad and reset them than it

would cost
> to buy a replacement!

That is true, and thats why Staples just replace them and don't send
them for repair. But if you pay more than $200.00 for something, Staples
will send it for repair for you, though thankfully that has not happened
to me yet. Most things I buy are not more than $200.00 unless a digital
camera I bought there last year.

>This is certainly an anti-consumer bit of technology
> that Canons and Epsons employ. The printer doesn't actually measure

how
> much ink it has accumulated in the pad. It estimates it based on the

number
> of pages printed plus the number of cleaning cycles that it does, both
> automatically and by you when there is a clog.

From what you say and from the message I got about wasted ink absorber,
I figured something is clogged.

> If you do have to replace the printer, Measekite's advice to get the

ip 4200
> or ip5200 isn't bad.

It depends on if they are available here and how much they cost. They
probably cost more here than you would pay though some here are fairly
cheap. I saw the iP1600 but it would be similar to the one I have.

> It's just the mean quality of his message that is
> totally inappropriate. Most of us have killfiled him and never see

his
> posts unless they are repeated by your response. So --- delete his

garbage
> with any future replies. Unfortunately, the newest pixma printers

have
> carts with computer chips built in and there are no aftermarket carts
> available yet. Hopefully they will become available.

So you have to use the brand name carts. Thats not what I want to do.
They are too expensive. Staples brand has been ok for me though they
have gone up in price recently and are not all that much cheaper than
brand name.

>The previous
> generation pixmas - the ip4000 and ip5000 - have separate color carts

and a
> ready supply of aftermarket prefilled carts and refill inks.

I thought my iP 1500 was a previous generation? it does not have
separate color carts. To tell you the truth, I really don't want
separate color carts, if you mean the three separate colors plus black.
I had an Epson like that and it is marketed as supposedly you save
money, but I found I spent more money. If the blue was half way down,
and the red was three quarters, and if I got a new blue, by another week
or so I had to get red and was always running back and forth and went to
an ink refiller which was ok, but I would not buy separate color
cartridges again. I want the three in one which is fine for my purposes.
If you can
> find one to buy, your replacement inks will be much cheaper. I have

found
> that businesses like Staples charge almost as much as OEM carts for

their
> aftermarket inks. Your best buys are on the internet and Nifty-stuff

forum
> and Neil Slade's info on papers and inks are good guides for which of

these
> products are safe and effective.

I've never bought ink carts online, as I use my printer steadily but not
every day. I like to buy them and get them right away. Thats just me
though. Staples OEM carts used to be a lot cheaper, but recently they
have gone up in price and not as much of a bargain any more.

> If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, Fry's electronics in San

Jose has
> the Canon MP780, a multipurpose unit, that has, as its basic printer

engine,
> the ip4000. It is on sale for $100 after reduction and Canon rebate.

It is
> also on sale at their outpost.com for $150. It is actually worth the

price
> for the printer function alone. As I mentioned for the ip4000 and

ip5000,
> there are lots of sources for prefilled carts of good quality.

I am a few thousand miles from San Francisco though I would like to
visit it but I am about an hour and a half to Buffalo, though I haven't
been there in 10 years. I think I can manage to find something a little
closer.
Thanks a lot for your information. I am going to see if I can find the
codes to re-set the ink absorber, or might end up going to Staples and
see what printers they have that I can get.
Too bad, I like the printer I have. I had a Canon before, the 2100. It
was a good printer,
better made than the ip1500. It lasted for 3 years with no problems.
Finally the printhead went and it was separate and it was going to cost
some ridiculous amount to replace and was cheaper to buy a new printer,
so I did.
Mary

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\Tony\ <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com> wrote in message
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> \Mary\ <no@japamjunk.com> wrote:
> >\measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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> >>
> >>
> >> Mary wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been

> >working
> >> >fine till last week.
> >> >Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK

for
> >> >me. Last week, I got a
> >> >new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always

printed
> >> >photos fine. But they had a
> >> >little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not

terrible,
> >but
> >> >I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better

before.
> >> >I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color

> >cart.
> >> >But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
> >> >cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press

> >Resume
> >> >button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I

also
> >> >notice after
> >> >printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full

> >which
> >> >should be down a little by now.
> >> >I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or

is
> >> >blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer

as
> >much
> >> >as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
> >> >according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is

my
> >> >printer finished?
> >> >
> >> >MaryW
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> YOU FURTHER COMPLICATED YOUR PIECE OF TRASH PRINTER BY PUTTING IN A
> >> GREATER PIECE OF TRASH INK AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED. IF YOU

FEEL
> >> YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON THEN GO OUT AND BUY A CANON IP5200.

> >
> >What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
> >problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
> >stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
> >bother replying if this is your best advice.
> >
> >Mary

>
> Mary
> Sorry you got the diatribe from the low life here.

Yeah, I should have checked his previous replies to people and I
wouldn't have bothered to answer. It always mystifies me why people want
to be trolls. Such a useless pursuit.

> Just to re-inforce what Burt has said about the waste absorber.
> There are two of them in this printer but the printer does not report

which one
> is nearly full.

Are they the two square pad things in the white plastic container thing
with dividers at the bottom right side of the printer where you can't
get at very well?

>Unfortunately I know of no codes to reset the counters, you
> have to use a special piece of Canon software to reset the counters.

This
> software also tells you which of the waste ink counters is nearing

full.
> If you would like to have a go at that please e-mail me and I will see

if I can
> help.

But would re-setting the counters help my situation if my problem is
clogged colors?
What does \waste ink absorbers almost full\ mean? Do you have a hotmail
or yahoo or other email address?
Thanks.
Mary

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> I cleaned the printer as much
> as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
> according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
> printer finished?

First, pay no attention to measekite. He harasses anyone who makes the
choice to use non-oem ink. I know nothing about staples ink, never
used it personaly.
Secondly, Burt's advice is sound. I have the mp760 which is rather
like the mp780. Good printer and infact sold for close to $300 just
last month. $150 plus the vast supply of aftermarket ink might be a
wise investment. The ip4200 seems to fetch as little as $90ish. The
ip5200 I just ordered for $120. This is less than the mp780 for higher
resolution, but there are not any easy aftermarket cartridges for them
yet.
Do as Burt sugests, do a nozzle check and make sure the issue is the
nozzles. There is a technique using windex, toilet paper, and pushing
on nifty forums, assuming your warranty has expired. If not, don't
muck about, call canon and get that printhead replaced for free.
The ip1500 is not their best egg. My niece has an older generation BJ
that is similar in many ways, perfectly acceptable for her needs but
not the sort of printer i'd invest money in parts on. I say this
because the replacement printhead costs $50ish QY6-054-000 if i'm not
mistaken, shared with the i450 i470 iP1500 MP390. Keep in mind that
these printheads do have a limited life, and it's very likely it's
simply burnt out, esp since you've reached a full inkpad.
So we have worst case of $50 to fix, assuming your issue is the
printhead, not to speak of the diaper. The ip1600 costs $29.00 on
amazon.com using their slugish super saver shipping. Not that i'd
reccomend the ip1600 as unlike your ip1500 it doesn't use a seperate
head, but rather heads on the cartridge adding to the cost per refill.
I'd have to check to see if it's onpar with the cost of the old ip1500.
But it sounds like you print enough to justify something above and
beyond a $50 model.
Given that your waste ink pad is \almost full\ after 1 year of use, I
would reccomend you at least consider upgrading to a model more geared
tward your use, either that or stick with $50 models and make sure to
use it so much that your waste ink full warnings come before the
warranty expires.
-older generation- Cheap easy aftermarket tanks
*-ip3000 Base model, $100 range on e-bay
-ip4000 Same thing but with an extra black for photos.
**-mp780 Same as above, but a beast of a multifuction, bargin at $150
-ip5000 HIgher resolution, same as the new models but take the old
cartridges
-current generation- Not so easy to refill
-ip4200 Good entry level printer $90ish to $120
***-ip5200 Heavier, faster, more nozzles, more money. $120ish to
$150ish
* I own
** I have something damn close
*** I'm waiting for
I picked the ip5200 because I print a heck of alot of CDs. While my
ip3000 is just peachy, I wanted something with higher resolution and
the price was right.
Do checkout nifty regarding cleaning, and alternative cartridges for
your printer that are cheaper than the store brand you bought.

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\Mary\ <no@japamjunk.com> wrote:
>\Tony\ <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com> wrote in message
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>> \Mary\ <no@japamjunk.com> wrote:
>> >\measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>> >news:Wv0Yf.55031$F_3.20890@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mary wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been
>> >working
>> >> >fine till last week.
>> >> >Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK

>for
>> >> >me. Last week, I got a
>> >> >new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always

>printed
>> >> >photos fine. But they had a
>> >> >little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not

>terrible,
>> >but
>> >> >I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better

>before.
>> >> >I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color
>> >cart.
>> >> >But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
>> >> >cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press
>> >Resume
>> >> >button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I

>also
>> >> >notice after
>> >> >printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full
>> >which
>> >> >should be down a little by now.
>> >> >I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or

>is
>> >> >blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer

>as
>> >much
>> >> >as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
>> >> >according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is

>my
>> >> >printer finished?
>> >> >
>> >> >MaryW
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> YOU FURTHER COMPLICATED YOUR PIECE OF TRASH PRINTER BY PUTTING IN A
>> >> GREATER PIECE OF TRASH INK AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED. IF YOU

>FEEL
>> >> YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON THEN GO OUT AND BUY A CANON IP5200.
>> >
>> >What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
>> >problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
>> >stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
>> >bother replying if this is your best advice.
>> >
>> >Mary

>>
>> Mary
>> Sorry you got the diatribe from the low life here.

>
>Yeah, I should have checked his previous replies to people and I
>wouldn't have bothered to answer. It always mystifies me why people want
>to be trolls. Such a useless pursuit.
>
>> Just to re-inforce what Burt has said about the waste absorber.
>> There are two of them in this printer but the printer does not report

>which one
>> is nearly full.

>
>Are they the two square pad things in the white plastic container thing
>with dividers at the bottom right side of the printer where you can't
>get at very well?
>
>>Unfortunately I know of no codes to reset the counters, you
>> have to use a special piece of Canon software to reset the counters.

>This
>> software also tells you which of the waste ink counters is nearing

>full.
>> If you would like to have a go at that please e-mail me and I will see

>if I can
>> help.

>
>But would re-setting the counters help my situation if my problem is
>clogged colors?
>What does \waste ink absorbers almost full\ mean? Do you have a hotmail
>or yahoo or other email address?
>Thanks.
>
>Mary

Mary
You can e-mail me at
TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com
The waste ink counter problem is not related to the poor quality print.
The waste pads are actually deep inside the printer on the base plate, or near
enough. Don't worry about the ink sitting in the capping station that is normal.
It is likely that the pads are not full yet and that if you reset them you
would be OK until the next time you get the message, at that time pad
replacement is a must or you may get ink spillage.
The symptoms you describe (poor print quality) indicates to me that the
printhead is failing so I strongly suggest that you get it in for warranty
replacement as soon as you can. They may just provide you with a new printhead
which is simple to replace (it comes with full instructions), it does not come
with new ink cartridges.
Compatible ink does not damage printheads whatever our low life says, he knows
next to nothing about printers, Burt and I and many others here know heaps.
The ip1600 uses cartridges with integrated print heads so you get one black and
one tricolour cartridge and when they run out of ink you get a new printhead as
well, unfortunately there are no compatible cartridges for that model yet but
they can be refilled (I don't know how easy or effective it is).
If you do want to try the reset I will send you the utility but cannot post it
to a non-binary newsgroup so I would need your e-mail address, if you prefer
not to do that I will post it to a free server and post the url here.
Tony

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\Mary\ <no@japamjunk.com> wrote in message
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> \Burt\ <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:ct1Yf.65766

The best news of all is that you are still under warranty. I did buy three
i5000 printers a few months ago at two staples stores in our area. They
were unadvertised and just happened to be on a closeout for $100 US each.
Don't reject the separate color carts idea yet - if you can find an ip4000,
ip5000, or the mp printer I mentioned in a previous post, you can buy
prefilled aftermarket carts online for $3 US or less and they hold a lot
more ink than your present printer carts. I don't remember the exact
volume, but I think that your present cart only has something like 7 ml. of
ink per color and when one runs out you throw the whole thing away. The
bci-6 carts have 13 to 14 ml of ink each - about double, and the aftermarket
ones I'll mention below are less than $3 US each (plus shipping, of course.)
For Canadian sources of aftermarket inks or for info on which companies ship
to Canada, send an email to Taliesyn - you can find some of his posts on
this newsgroup.
Look at the following sites for more information:
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
http://www.neilslade.com/papers/badink.html
G&G and Procolor carts from Alotofthings.com were tested by Neil Slade and
his test photos are on his site. You will save considerably more money on
these inks with the five separate cart printers if you can find one
available. You might have your staples store check their warehouse facility
for a stray ip5000 if they don't have one in stock and you may just be able
to have them give it to you to satisfy the extended warranty. If
aftermarket carts were currently available I would then suggest the ip4200
or ip5200.

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\Mary\ <no@japamjunk.com> wrote in message
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> \Burt\ <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:ct1Yf.65766
>
>> \measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>> >> Mary wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been
>> > working
>> >> >fine till last week.
>> >> >Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK

> for
>> >> >me. Last week, I got a
>> >> >new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always

> printed
>> >> >photos fine. But they had a
>> >> >little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not

> terrible,
>> > but
>> >> >I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better

> before.
>> >> >I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color
>> > cart.
>> >> >But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
>> >> >cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press
>> > Resume
>> >> >button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I

> also
>> >> >notice after
>> >> >printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full
>> > which
>> >> >should be down a little by now.
>> >> >I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or

> is
>> >> >blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer

> as
>> > much
>> >> >as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
>> >> >according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is

> my
>> >> >printer finished?
>> >> >
>> >> >MaryW
>> >> >
>> >> >

>> (snipped Measekite's mean-spirited, unhelpful response to Mary)
>>
>> >
>> > What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
>> > problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
>> > stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
>> > bother replying if this is your best advice.
>> >
>> > Mary
>> >

>> Mary - you've just encountered our resident obnoxious troll. I can't

> recall
>> the last time he was anything but mean spirited and rude.

>
> I kind of figured that, but fell in the trap anyway
>
> He has a real
>> thing about aftermarket inks and constantly snipes at anyone who

> mentions
>> them.

>
> Actually, my photos printed much better with the \trash ink\ which was
> Staples compatible carts if thats what he means by aftermarket inks,
> than it now does with brand name Canon ink cart.
>
> Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does
>> everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your enjoying

> it.
>
> Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during that
> time till I got a new Staples compatible but that is what I have always
> used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
> pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the Canon
> brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
> compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
> something to do with the printer.
>
>> You have two problems.

>
>> One is probably some clogging of the jets which has caused one or more
>> colors to partially print and results in a color shift. Genuine Canon

> inks
>> (OEM) can clog the printhead also. Otherwise there would be no reason

> for
>> all inkjet printers to have built in cleaning routines. Clogs usually
>> happen from letting the printer sit idle for a period of time without
>> printing. Clogging also can occur after some months or years of use.

>
> The printer is not used every day but pretty frequently and this is the
> first time I've had any kind of color problem with photos. Its not
> terrible, but a light pinkish cast is there that was never there before.
> Just enough to not look quite right when compared to a previous print of
> the same photo from when I printed it a month ago.
>
>>You
>> can also have a failure of the printhead or the printer circuitry.

> I've
>> never used this printer, but it probably has a nozzle check. Run it

> to see
>> if you are getting a perfect pattern. The cleaning routine in the

> printer
>> software works for very minor clogs.

>
> I did a nozzle check and some of the color lines look ok except for the
> second lighter blue which has lines a little broken up, but the red
> which is the color I seem to have a little too much of in the prints,
> looks ok. The yellow looks ok, but the lighter yellow below that is
> quite hard to see.
>
>> It also uses up ink quickly,
>> especially with the small volume of ink in the ip1500 carts.

>
> Thats another thing you reminded me off. I have the printer monitor on
> to check to see how much ink is left in the carts, and they both still
> show them as being full. By this time after printing quite a few photos
> in my experiments (wasted ink of course), the carts usually suddenly dip
> down to about half after what seems a very short time.
>
>>Since you know
>> how to remove the printhead, go on to the Nifty-stuff forum, click on

> the
>> FAQ section, and read the first thread about what to do if your

> printer
>> doesn't print properly. Lots of info on cleaning a removable Canon
>> printhead. If, however, you are still under warranty, just contact

> Canon
>> and they will send you a new printhead.

>
> I've never heard of Nifty stuff forum, but I'll do a search for it. The
> warranty for my printer is up sometimes this month, but since I bought
> it at Staples. I am in Toronto, Canada, so things might be done a little
> different than in the US with Staples. I got an extended warranty for
> $10.00 when I bought the printer as I thought it was worth it. I had an
> Epson a few years ago and it conked out during the second year, and
> Staples took my old one back and said to take another one and thats how
> I got the Canon I now have. Anything that cost under $200, they dont
> send for repair. They just replace it with same printer or one a little
> more money and you pay the difference. So I am not sure if I would just
> get another printer since I could get one the same price and not have to
> pay anything more than I paid for the printer I have, or pay a little
> more if I saw something else.
> I saw advertised an iP 1600 which would be similar to what I have and
> about the same price. I don't want to pay a lot for a printer. I don't
> print photos that often. I go on photo printing binges. We probably
> don't have all the varieties of printers you have in the US though we
> have enough for most people. I seem to manage to buy enough stuff
>
>> The other problem is the nearly full waste ink tank. It isn't really

> a
>> tank - it is an absorbent pad inside the bottom of the printer.

>
> When I checked the printer, I notice on the right side where you can't
> get at inside the printer (where they don't want you to get at), there
> is a white plastic cup thing with small dividers, don't know what you
> call them, and a lot of blue and red ink smeared around, and two small
> pad things. I guess thats what you mean.
>
>>If you keep
>> printing now that you've gotten the warning, your printer will

> absolutely
>> shut down and you will have to take it to a repair facility to have

> them
>> replace the pad and reset the printer internal operating system.

>
> I would take it to Staples and they will replace it with another printer
> as that one is not in production now, or I would pay a little more for
> difference in price from what I paid and get another printer.
> Theoretically, during the first year, its under warranty by the
> manufacturer, but often Staples will give you a new one even without
> extended warranty. The extended warranty is for the second year. I've
> never had to take a printer or anything for repair when buying at
> Staples. I have found them good to deal with.
>
>>Again, on
>> the Nifty-stuff forum you can find the control codes for some of the

> Canon
>> priners that the technicians use to reset the counter that tells you

> the pad
>> is full. From what I've read, one reset without replacing the pad

> doesn't
>> generally cause the printer to leak ink.

>
> I will see if I can find that information on Nifty-stuff though I've
> never been there,.
>
> Unfortunately, these printers cost
>> more for the technician to replace the pad and reset them than it

> would cost
>> to buy a replacement!

>
> That is true, and thats why Staples just replace them and don't send
> them for repair. But if you pay more than $200.00 for something, Staples
> will send it for repair for you, though thankfully that has not happened
> to me yet. Most things I buy are not more than $200.00 unless a digital
> camera I bought there last year.
>
>>This is certainly an anti-consumer bit of technology
>> that Canons and Epsons employ. The printer doesn't actually measure

> how
>> much ink it has accumulated in the pad. It estimates it based on the

> number
>> of pages printed plus the number of cleaning cycles that it does, both
>> automatically and by you when there is a clog.

>
> From what you say and from the message I got about wasted ink absorber,
> I figured something is clogged.
>
>> If you do have to replace the printer, Measekite's advice to get the

> ip 4200
>> or ip5200 isn't bad.

>
> It depends on if they are available here and how much they cost. They
> probably cost more here than you would pay though some here are fairly
> cheap. I saw the iP1600 but it would be similar to the one I have.
>
>> It's just the mean quality of his message that is
>> totally inappropriate. Most of us have killfiled him and never see

> his
>> posts unless they are repeated by your response. So --- delete his

> garbage
>> with any future replies. Unfortunately, the newest pixma printers

> have
>> carts with computer chips built in and there are no aftermarket carts
>> available yet. Hopefully they will become available.

>
> So you have to use the brand name carts. Thats not what I want to do.
> They are too expensive. Staples brand has been ok for me though they
> have gone up in price recently and are not all that much cheaper than
> brand name.
>
> >The previous
>> generation pixmas - the ip4000 and ip5000 - have separate color carts

> and a
>> ready supply of aftermarket prefilled carts and refill inks.

>
> I thought my iP 1500 was a previous generation? it does not have
> separate color carts. To tell you the truth, I really don't want
> separate color carts, if you mean the three separate colors plus black.
> I had an Epson like that and it is marketed as supposedly you save
> money, but I found I spent more money. If the blue was half way down,
> and the red was three quarters, and if I got a new blue, by another week
> or so I had to get red and was always running back and forth and went to
> an ink refiller which was ok, but I would not buy separate color
> cartridges again. I want the three in one which is fine for my purposes.
>
> If you can
>> find one to buy, your replacement inks will be much cheaper. I have

> found
>> that businesses like Staples charge almost as much as OEM carts for

> their
>> aftermarket inks. Your best buys are on the internet and Nifty-stuff

> forum
>> and Neil Slade's info on papers and inks are good guides for which of

> these
>> products are safe and effective.

>
> I've never bought ink carts online, as I use my printer steadily but not
> every day. I like to buy them and get them right away. Thats just me
> though. Staples OEM carts used to be a lot cheaper, but recently they
> have gone up in price and not as much of a bargain any more.
>
>> If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, Fry's electronics in San

> Jose has
>> the Canon MP780, a multipurpose unit, that has, as its basic printer

> engine,
>> the ip4000. It is on sale for $100 after reduction and Canon rebate.

> It is
>> also on sale at their outpost.com for $150. It is actually worth the

> price
>> for the printer function alone. As I mentioned for the ip4000 and

> ip5000,
>> there are lots of sources for prefilled carts of good quality.

>
> I am a few thousand miles from San Francisco though I would like to
> visit it but I am about an hour and a half to Buffalo, though I haven't
> been there in 10 years. I think I can manage to find something a little
> closer.
> Thanks a lot for your information. I am going to see if I can find the
> codes to re-set the ink absorber, or might end up going to Staples and
> see what printers they have that I can get.
> Too bad, I like the printer I have. I had a Canon before, the 2100. It
> was a good printer,
> better made than the ip1500. It lasted for 3 years with no problems.
> Finally the printhead went and it was separate and it was going to cost
> some ridiculous amount to replace and was cheaper to buy a new printer,
> so I did.
>
> Mary
>
>

Mary - I forgot to answer another of your questions. If you are getting a
color shift to pink or red it is not the magenta jets that are clogged, it
would be one of the others. Probably Cyan. With flesh tones, if as an
experiment you back off of the cyan in the printer software you will shift
to a redder skin tone and visa versa. In essence, you get the opposite
color shift to the jet that is partially clogged.

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> But they had a little too much pink in them and some were a bi
dar
I know you are know printing coloured photos but I thought you wer
complaining of a coloured cast...this will show up more easily in
b&w photo where the mixture of the colours ought to produce
reasonable black to white images and the grey's in between....this i
greyscale
There should be no colour cast only black or white and the in between
which should be gray
Getting rid of the colour 'tinge' as we'll call it is easier done I'
say in a b&w photo, it only needs to be a small one and not o
full blown size
Dont think any comments where made about the ink and paper brand, i
this could be the cause
Dav

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Mary wrote:

>\Burt\ <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:ct1Yf.65766
>
>
>
>>\measekite\ <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>

>
>
>
>>>>Mary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>working
>>>
>>>
>>>>>fine till last week.
>>>>>Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK
>>>>>
>>>>>

>for
>
>
>>>>>me. Last week, I got a
>>>>>new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always
>>>>>
>>>>>

>printed
>
>
>>>>>photos fine. But they had a
>>>>>little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not
>>>>>
>>>>>

>terrible,
>
>
>>>but
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better
>>>>>
>>>>>

>before.
>
>
>>>>>I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>cart.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
>>>>>cleanings and it says \waste ink absorber is almost full, press
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Resume
>>>
>>>
>>>>>button\. It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I
>>>>>
>>>>>

>also
>
>
>>>>>notice after
>>>>>printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>which
>>>
>>>
>>>>>should be down a little by now.
>>>>>I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or
>>>>>
>>>>>

>is
>
>
>>>>>blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer
>>>>>
>>>>>

>as
>
>
>>>much
>>>
>>>
>>>>>as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
>>>>>according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is
>>>>>
>>>>>

>my
>
>
>>>>>printer finished?
>>>>>
>>>>>MaryW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>(snipped Measekite's mean-spirited, unhelpful response to Mary)
>>
>>
>>
>>>What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
>>>problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
>>>stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
>>>bother replying if this is your best advice.
>>>
>>>Mary
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>Mary - you've just encountered our resident obnoxious troll. I can't
>>
>>

>recall
>
>
>>the last time he was anything but mean spirited and rude.
>>
>>

>
>I kind of figured that, but fell in the trap anyway
>
> He has a real
>
>
>>thing about aftermarket inks and constantly snipes at anyone who
>>
>>

>mentions
>
>
>>them.
>>
>>

>
>Actually, my photos printed much better with the \trash ink\ which was
>Staples compatible carts if thats what he means by aftermarket inks,
>than it now does with brand name Canon ink cart.
>
>Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does
>
>
>>everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your enjoying
>>
>>

>it.
>
>Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during that
>time
>


>till I got a new Staples compatible
>

THATS WHAT I MEAN.

>but that is what I have always
>used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
>pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the Canon
>brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
>compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
>something to do with the printer.
>
>
>
>>You have two problems.
>>
>>

>
>
>
>>One is probably some clogging of the jets which has caused one or more
>>colors to partially print and results in a color shift. Genuine Canon
>>
>>

>inks
>
>
>>(OEM) can clog the printhead also. Otherwise there would be no reason
>>
>>

>for
>
>
>>all inkjet printers to have built in cleaning routines. Clogs usually
>>happen from letting the printer sit idle for a period of time without
>>printing. Clogging also can occur after some months or years of use.
>>
>>

>
>The printer is not used every day but pretty frequently and this is the
>first time I've had any kind of color problem with photos. Its not
>terrible, but a light pinkish cast is there that was never there before.
>Just enough to not look quite right when compared to a previous print of
>the same photo from when I printed it a month ago.
>
>
>
>>You
>>can also have a failure of the printhead or the printer circuitry.
>>
>>

>I've
>
>
>>never used this printer, but it probably has a nozzle check. Run it
>>
>>

>to see
>
>
>>if you are getting a perfect pattern. The cleaning routine in the
>>
>>

>printer
>
>
>>software works for very minor clogs.
>>
>>

>
>I did a nozzle check and some of the color lines look ok except for the
>second lighter blue which has lines a little broken up, but the red
>which is the color I seem to have a little too much of in the prints,
>looks ok. The yellow looks ok, but the lighter yellow below that is
>quite hard to see.
>
>
>
>>It also uses up ink quickly,
>>especially with the small volume of ink in the ip1500 carts.
>>
>>

>
>Thats another thing you reminded me off. I have the printer monitor on
>to check to see how much ink is left in the carts, and they both still
>show them as being full. By this time after printing quite a few photos
>in my experiments (wasted ink of course), the carts usually suddenly dip
>down to about half after what seems a very short time.
>
>
>
>>Since you know
>>how to remove the printhead, go on to the Nifty-stuff forum, click on
>>
>>

>the
>
>
>>FAQ section, and read the first thread about what to do if your
>>
>>

>printer
>
>
>>doesn't print properly. Lots of info on cleaning a removable Canon
>>printhead. If, however, you are still under warranty, just contact
>>
>>

>Canon
>
>
>>and they will send you a new printhead.
>>
>>

>
>I've never heard of Nifty stuff forum, but I'll do a search for it. The
>warranty for my printer is up sometimes this month, but since I bought
>it at Staples. I am in Toronto, Canada, so things might be done a little
>different than in the US with Staples. I got an extended warranty for
>$10.00 when I bought the printer as I thought it was worth it. I had an
>Epson a few years ago and it conked out during the second year, and
>Staples took my old one back and said to take another one and thats how
>I got the Canon I now have. Anything that cost under $200, they dont
>send for repair. They just replace it with same printer or one a little
>more money and you pay the difference. So I am not sure if I would just
>get another printer since I could get one the same price and not have to
>pay anything more than I paid for the printer I have, or pay a little
>more if I saw something else.
>I saw advertised an iP 1600 which would be similar to what I have and
>about the same price. I don't want to pay a lot for a printer. I don't
>print photos that often. I go on photo printing binges. We probably
>don't have all the varieties of printers you have in the US though we
>have enough for most people. I seem to manage to buy enough stuff
>
>
>
>>The other problem is the nearly full waste ink tank. It isn't really
>>
>>

>a
>
>
>>tank - it is an absorbent pad inside the bottom of the printer.
>>
>>

>
>When I checked the printer, I notice on the right side where you can't
>get at inside the printer (where they don't want you to get at), there
>is a white plastic cup thing with small dividers, don't know what you
>call them, and a lot of blue and red ink smeared around, and two small
>pad things. I guess thats what you mean.
>
>
>
>>If you keep
>>printing now that you've gotten the warning, your printer will
>>
>>

>absolutely
>
>
>>shut down and you will have to take it to a repair facility to have
>>
>>

>them
>
>
>>replace the pad and reset the printer internal operating system.
>>
>>

>
>I would take it to Staples and they will replace it with another printer
>as that one is not in production now, or I would pay a little more for
>difference in price from what I paid and get another printer.
>Theoretically, during the first year, its under warranty by the
>manufacturer, but often Staples will give you a new one even without
>extended warranty. The extended warranty is for the second year. I've
>never had to take a printer or anything for repair when buying at
>Staples. I have found them good to deal with.
>
>
>
>>Again, on
>>the Nifty-stuff forum you can find the control codes for some of the
>>
>>

>Canon
>
>
>>priners that the technicians use to reset the counter that tells you
>>
>>

>the pad
>
>
>>is full. From what I've read, one reset without replacing the pad
>>
>>

>doesn't
>
>
>>generally cause the printer to leak ink.
>>
>>

>
>I will see if I can find that information on Nifty-stuff though I've
>never been there,.
>
> Unfortunately, these printers cost
>
>
>>more for the technician to replace the pad and reset them than it
>>
>>

>would cost
>
>
>>to buy a replacement!
>>
>>

>
>That is true, and thats why Staples just replace them and don't send
>them for repair. But if you pay more than $200.00 for something, Staples
>will send it for repair for you, though thankfully that has not happened
>to me yet. Most things I buy are not more than $200.00 unless a digital
>camera I bought there last year.
>
>
>
>>This is certainly an anti-consumer bit of technology
>>that Canons and Epsons employ. The printer doesn't actually measure
>>
>>

>how
>
>
>>much ink it has accumulated in the pad. It estimates it based on the
>>
>>

>number
>
>
>>of pages printed plus the number of cleaning cycles that it does, both
>>automatically and by you when there is a clog.
>>
>>

>
>From what you say and from the message I got about wasted ink absorber,
>I figured something is clogged.
>
>
>
>>If you do have to replace the printer, Measekite's advice to get the
>>
>>

>ip 4200
>
>
>>or ip5200 isn't bad.
>>
>>

>
>It depends on if they are available here and how much they cost. They
>probably cost more here than you would pay though some here are fairly
>cheap. I saw the iP1600 but it would be similar to the one I have.
>
>
>
>>It's just the mean quality of his message that is
>>totally inappropriate. Most of us have killfiled him and never see
>>
>>

>his
>
>
>>posts unless they are repeated by your response. So --- delete his
>>
>>

>garbage
>
>
>>with any future replies. Unfortunately, the newest pixma printers
>>
>>

>have
>
>
>>carts with computer chips built in and there are no aftermarket carts
>>available yet. Hopefully they will become available.
>>
>>

>
>So you have to use the brand name carts. Thats not what I want to do.
>They are too expensive. Staples brand has been ok for me though they
>have gone up in price recently and are not all that much cheaper than
>brand name.
>
> >The previous

>
>
>>generation pixmas - the ip4000 and ip5000 - have separate color carts
>>
>>

>and a
>
>
>>ready supply of aftermarket prefilled carts and refill inks.
>>
>>

>
>I thought my iP 1500 was a previous generation? it does not have
>separate color carts. To tell you the truth, I really don't want
>separate color carts, if you mean the three separate colors plus black.
>I had an Epson like that and it is marketed as supposedly you save
>money, but I found I spent more money. If the blue was half way down,
>and the red was three quarters, and if I got a new blue, by another week
>or so I had to get red and was always running back and forth and went to
>an ink refiller which was ok, but I would not buy separate color
>cartridges again. I want the three in one which is fine for my purposes.
>
> If you can
>
>
>>find one to buy, your replacement inks will be much cheaper. I have
>>
>>

>found
>
>
>>that businesses like Staples charge almost as much as OEM carts for
>>
>>

>their
>
>
>>aftermarket inks. Your best buys are on the internet and Nifty-stuff
>>
>>

>forum
>
>
>>and Neil Slade's info on papers and inks are good guides for which of
>>
>>

>these
>
>
>>products are safe and effective.
>>
>>

>
>I've never bought ink carts online, as I use my printer steadily but not
>every day. I like to buy them and get them right away. Thats just me
>though. Staples OEM carts used to be a lot cheaper, but recently they
>have gone up in price and not as much of a bargain any more.
>
>
>
>>If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, Fry's electronics in San
>>
>>

>Jose has
>
>
>>the Canon MP780, a multipurpose unit, that has, as its basic printer
>>
>>

>engine,
>
>
>>the ip4000. It is on sale for $100 after reduction and Canon rebate.
>>
>>

>It is
>
>
>>also on sale at their outpost.com for $150. It is actually worth the
>>
>>

>price
>
>
>>for the printer function alone. As I mentioned for the ip4000 and
>>
>>

>ip5000,
>
>
>>there are lots of sources for prefilled carts of good quality.
>>
>>

>
>I am a few thousand miles from San Francisco though I would like to
>visit it but I am about an hour and a half to Buffalo, though I haven't
>been there in 10 years. I think I can manage to find something a little
>closer.
>Thanks a lot for your information. I am going to see if I can find the
>codes to re-set the ink absorber, or might end up going to Staples and
>see what printers they have that I can get.
>Too bad, I like the printer I have. I had a Canon before, the 2100. It
>was a good printer,
>better made than the ip1500. It lasted for 3 years with no problems.
>Finally the printhead went and it was separate and it was going to cost
>some ridiculous amount to replace and was cheaper to buy a new printer,
>so I did.
>
>Mary
>
>
>
>

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